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Feb
2007
Posted by Skitzzo as Forums
As we’ve already discussed, there are certain things you need to do in order to promote your forum. However, even if you’re successful, you and your community are still not care free. There are several things that can effectively kill even the most established forum. So, I’ve compiled a list of 10 Things that Will KILL Your Forum.
Excessive Ads - Hey, there’s nothing wrong with making some money off your forum. But, when your advertisements begin to take up more space on your forum than your content, you’ve got a problem. People visit forums to talk to other people with similar interests. They want to share their ideas or ask questions. They DON’T want to have to sort through 3 pages of ads, to find one page worth of content. Think of it this way, you don’t tune in to your favorite TV show to watch the commercials do you? Well neither do your visitors.
Trolls - Everyone’s encountered a troll whether you knew it or not. The Urban Dictionary defines a troll as “someone who gets pleasure by typing annoying/controversial/offensive words on internet forums or message boards.” If you run a forum long enough, probably every one of your members will annoy you from time to time. That’s just human nature. Trolls on the other hand, bring absolutely NO value to the forum and instead sit back and generally annoy you along with everyone else on the forum. They simply aren’t worth the hassle. To top it all of, many times, not only are trolls an annoyance, but they end up starting…
Heavy Handed Moderating - Have you ever heard the saying that “absolute power corrupts absolutely”? Or maybe, “the power’s gone to his head”? Both of these things can befall you, or your moderators if you don’t watch out for it. Forum Moderators or Administrators are given power to keep the rest of the forum in line. But, as Uncle Ben told Spiderman, with great power comes great responsibility. To continue the string of cliches, Moderators/Admin’s need to tread lightly but carry a big stick (basically they need to be Kung-Fu Masters). All forums and communities need a chain of command, but given the right situation, one Mod on an ego trip can splinter your forum while you’re on your lunch break.Don’t get me wrong, spam needs to be deleted, fight threads need to be locked, and the rules need to be enforced. However, you and your mods must always remember that your forum exists due to the contributions of your members. Arbitrarily closing threads critical of you or the forum can be dangerous and secretly deleting posts is just asking for trouble. If you’re involved in the argument, ask another moderator to step in. Take a breather, calm down, and make sure none of your decisions are motivated by anger or selfish ambitions. If you’re unsure which course of action to take, ask the rest of your staff. Whatever you do, always be open about it. When you screw up, and you will, man up and admit it.
Over Posting - Look, people don’t come to a forum to hear one person talk all the time. It’s a community, not a soap box. If you want it to be all about you, start a blog. It’s very easy to dominate a forum, especially in the early days. There’s not a lot of activity and you’re eager to keep the conversations going. But, you need to give others a chance to answer questions, give advice, or offer up their opinions. If a post goes ignored for too long, by all means reply, but you’ll smother your forum if you’re the first to reply to every single post. As the old saying goes, “Better everyone think you a fool, than to open your mouth and prove them right.” And who knows, you might even learn something…
Slow Site - You remember how slow dial-up internet access used to be? It sucked right? Especially if you’d ever used a high speed connection. Well, having too many ads (yes, it’s worth mentioning again), widgets, plugins, or those cool ad-ons included in your forum can drag your site back to the dark ages. Navigating around a forum requires more clicks than on an average site, and members spend a longer than average time on your site. If every one of those clicks takes your users to a page that is slow to load, it’s going to take a LOT longer than it should to get around the site. We’re now firmly entrenched in an age of instant gratification and if your site is slow to load, your members and visitors simply won’t put up with it. They have too many other sites out there to sit around and wait for yours to get it’s act together.And my last bit of advice will be this… You’re going to make mistakes. It’s inevitable. But, if you follow the tips and lessons we’ve previously given you, and try to avoid things on this list, chances are, you and your forum will be able to withstand those occasional slip-ups. Most of all, be honest with your members. You’ll be surprised how much slack they’ll be willing to cut you. I hope you’ve enjoyed this brief series and as always, if you think we’re wrong, or left something out, feel free to chime in!
P.S. If you haven’t yet visited Mike Reed’s Flame Warriors Site (where a few of these thumbnails are taken from), you really should do so. It’s highly entertaining and even more accurate. Enjoy!
Note: If you’re a forum admin, mod or member and you enjoyed this article, check out our articles, 10 Tips for Promoting Your Forum and Top Ten Lessons I’ve Learned About Managing an Online Forum, if you haven’t already read them.
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44 Responses
LeeDodd.com » Blog Archive » Links of Interest - February 16
February 16th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
1[…] SEO Refugee has made a post today about 10 mistakes that will kill a forum. With my background in forums and knowing that many forum admin read my blog, I felt this would be a great blog post to point out. […]
steve
February 16th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
2somethingawful dot com has done fairly well despite breaking a few of these rules
Stephen
February 17th, 2007 at 8:36 am
3I don’t think these rules necessarily apply to forums that are already huge, like Something Awful or Off Topic, etc.
jjiore
February 17th, 2007 at 8:41 am
4trolling is a beautiful thing
lisa
February 17th, 2007 at 8:57 am
5great article… Many forums are too clique-y and due to undermoderation, you’ll post and never get a response while the “regulars” banter back and forth.
Patrick
February 17th, 2007 at 9:49 am
6I’m being a troll hahahahaha… you suck!
Nat
February 17th, 2007 at 10:13 am
7That’s because people at somethingawful are looking for the same thing.
Dawn
February 17th, 2007 at 10:27 am
8Thanks for the wonderful tips Skitzzo! I’ll try to keep them in mind for our stepparent forums.
-Dawn
jerks
February 17th, 2007 at 10:38 am
9It all comes down to treating others as you wish to be treated .
Common sense can be uncommon.
Power can lead to control issues and abuse of administrative rights,
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February 17th, 2007 at 11:15 am
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anon
February 17th, 2007 at 11:17 am
11GetBig THRIVES and breaks: #2, 3, 4, 6, 7 and 8.
Maurice
February 17th, 2007 at 11:20 am
12Somethingawful has done a terrible job. This would be worth posting over there if it wouldn’t get you banned immediately by the facist mods.
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February 17th, 2007 at 11:34 am
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digg
February 17th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
14you’ve just been dugg!
Halx
February 17th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
15So basicly, you’re saying, “Do the right thing.” Hmm. That’s easy. Been doing it for 5 years.
b oxford
February 17th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
16You can add:
- Too many unnecessary sub-categories
- lack of good sub-categories (kids and woman’s areas)
- not offering a variety of effective tools for moderators that don’t just ban folks
- indecisive top management with final word on issues
- lack of posted Rules and Regulations. (not just the sign up TOS
- Consistent enforcement of R&R.
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February 17th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
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[Linked]
February 17th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
1910 Mistakes that Will KILL a Forum
http://www.seorefugee.com/seoblog/2007/02/16/10-mistakes-that-will-kill-a-forum/
Ron
February 18th, 2007 at 2:02 am
20over at the Winextra forums
( http://www.winextra.com/forums )
they solved the fighting problem by designating
a specific forum for fights, rants, and general
madness :) they call it The Cage
Dogcow MacWinner
February 18th, 2007 at 2:56 am
21somethingawful dot com is what one could call a pretty unique forum.
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alura
February 19th, 2007 at 10:19 am
23this is in regards to something posted by Papio on Flirtbox..I would have to add #s 3 and 4..I totally agree with the way he feels about the forum and these 10 mistakes on here are very real, but as to ads, that is was keeps the forum going someone has to pay for them if its a free site..thanks
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Bog
February 26th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
27Heavy handed moderating should be number 1. The only reason any moderation should ever take place is to remove flooding or other intentional “physical” attacks on the forum’s functionality, or possible to move misplaced threads into other categories. Absolutely any other form of moderation is totally absurd.
电子网
March 18th, 2007 at 10:02 am
28somethingawful dot com is what one could call a pretty unique forum.
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maggie
April 10th, 2007 at 10:58 am
31Great tips on here.
Bear repeating over again specially #3
Maggie
Barry
April 25th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
32Of course, how do you get a community without a real community to start? Sounds like you gotta make up 15 different user names and get posting :P
WebGeek
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:22 pm
33Well said. I’ve left forums before because #2,4,5,6 were out of control. You guys seem to keep a good balance here though. :)
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September 5th, 2007 at 7:51 am
38Great tips to forum staff no doubt. I really appreciated it.
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October 9th, 2007 at 3:37 am
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Scott Fish
October 19th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
40I have heard that “Cliques can Kill” and that is very true! I once worked with the Infamous Earl Gray to migrate a forum into a new domain and community and that old community seemed to dominate the forum as a Clique.
Thanks for this list!
Sneezy Melon
November 25th, 2007 at 11:05 am
41nice and comprehensive article.
and thanks for informing about Mike Reed’s Flame Warriors Site
it’s an amazing site. this page goes in my bookmarks…:D
Close Protection
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:50 am
42Made me laugh but true. I’m getting complaints about my template. Only from 2 members, should I listen?
anglictina
February 7th, 2008 at 11:52 am
43It´s ads is biggest killer!
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